Comments on: Is it time to get behind Team GBP and give Scottish notes the high jump? http://www.betternation.org/2012/08/is-it-time-to-get-behind-team-gbp-and-give-scottish-notes-the-high-jump/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=is-it-time-to-get-behind-team-gbp-and-give-scottish-notes-the-high-jump Work as if you live in the early days of a Fri, 17 May 2013 13:59:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Juteman http://www.betternation.org/2012/08/is-it-time-to-get-behind-team-gbp-and-give-scottish-notes-the-high-jump/#comment-32376 Juteman Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:50:02 +0000 http://www.betternation.org/?p=2627#comment-32376 @Chris.
That will be the consequence of a ‘no’ vote.
The threat/fear of Independence led to the devolved parliament being allowed by Westminster.
If the vote is ‘no’, then Westminster will set about rolling back what little powers we have, to make sure it’s authority isn’t challenged again.
I don’t think enough folk have thought about what a ‘no’ vote will lead to. It certainly won’t be the status-quo.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.betternation.org/2012/08/is-it-time-to-get-behind-team-gbp-and-give-scottish-notes-the-high-jump/#comment-32375 Jeff Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:58:25 +0000 http://www.betternation.org/?p=2627#comment-32375 Given your youthful photo there Alasdair I am presuming that you haven’t seen a home GB Olympics come or go, other than this one. That may (or may not) be a crucial factor for the longevity of this unmistakable feel good GB factor, but you surely have to accept it’s unknown at this stage…

]]> By: Chris http://www.betternation.org/2012/08/is-it-time-to-get-behind-team-gbp-and-give-scottish-notes-the-high-jump/#comment-32373 Chris Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:11:35 +0000 http://www.betternation.org/?p=2627#comment-32373 Juteman,

I didn’t realise that becoming a northern county of England was a possible referendum option. I guess if it was it would be even less popular than independence.

]]> By: JPJ2 http://www.betternation.org/2012/08/is-it-time-to-get-behind-team-gbp-and-give-scottish-notes-the-high-jump/#comment-32369 JPJ2 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:19:43 +0000 http://www.betternation.org/?p=2627#comment-32369 I have loved and yelled out in support of every Team GB at this and every other Olympics as Scotland is currently part of that team-but I do not buy into the idea that Team GB is essential.

I also cheer for Team Europe in the Ryder Cup, but I don’t buy into the more obviously untrue suggestion that a Team Europe should be created just because “we” might then top the Olympic medal table.

Carried to its logical conclusion we ought now to be agitating for a Team GB in football-but does anyone really believe that a Team GB winning the World Cup in 1966 would have had many Scots in it, even given Celtic being at their all time peak, and Scotland beating England at Wembley in 1967 (in case anyone says the 1967 match was not an important or meaningful one, it was, as it was part of the “Home” Nations qualifying competition for Euro 68 {formerly the European Nations Cup}.

In fact I think is highly unlikely that the rest of the World is aware of the extent of the Scottish contribution to Olympic success.

By all means celebrate British and Scottish success in the Olympics as I do, but anyone who thinks that the positive spin off from the Olympics, likely to accrue to London from GB success, will also be reflected in Scotland is deluding themselves.

The only way to promote Scotland (stating the obvious) is to promote SCOTLAND not Britain (or perhaps England-I give commentators in the UK credit for what must have been a herculean effort to say “Britain” rather than “England”, but I doubt many in the Rest of the World bothered to do so, or in many cases realise that Britain and England are not synonyms.
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]]> By: Indy http://www.betternation.org/2012/08/is-it-time-to-get-behind-team-gbp-and-give-scottish-notes-the-high-jump/#comment-32367 Indy Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:26:12 +0000 http://www.betternation.org/?p=2627#comment-32367 I don’t want to be picky but that comparison between WW2 and the Olympics has kind of been bugging me. I suppose it depends on your age but as someone whose grandparents – and all the rest of my family in that generation – went through the war, gooey doesn’t really come into it. Pride, yes, but also the memory of loss and suffering and, in some cases, survivor’s guilt.

I suppose the further away you get from it the more rosey it becomes. The reality for those who lived it was a bit more bloody.

]]> By: nconway http://www.betternation.org/2012/08/is-it-time-to-get-behind-team-gbp-and-give-scottish-notes-the-high-jump/#comment-32366 nconway Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:07:52 +0000 http://www.betternation.org/?p=2627#comment-32366 Bring on the Euro …as much as folk talk of its demise its not going away .The Eurozone has a larger Gdp than China and also the USA the eurozone will reorganise itself and be the stronger for it .

]]> By: Alasdair Frew-Bell http://www.betternation.org/2012/08/is-it-time-to-get-behind-team-gbp-and-give-scottish-notes-the-high-jump/#comment-32361 Alasdair Frew-Bell Sun, 12 Aug 2012 00:43:51 +0000 http://www.betternation.org/?p=2627#comment-32361 What is so ball-crunchingly pathetic about some of this is that the SNP, or whatever, loyalists have such fond feelings for, or such visceral/vestigial regard for the ding an sich, namely, sentimentalized, clapped out, post-imperial Britain. Keep the monarchy, the pound, the commonwealth and uncle Tom Cobley, a Dhìa! ! a veritable Fine Gael in the making.
Cochrane and like Unionists could well be right. Britain, a post-reformation chimeric, supra-national evocation of Scots antisyzygy after all, may mean more to our contemporary “risk averse” mindset than is realised. It’s THE weak point.To remove this “vile thing” from the national psyche requires some major surgery. Sometimes I wonder about contemporary Scottish nationalism. It seems just too phlegmatically, cozily, non-ideologically boringly “British” for confort. Would that it ditched the lawyers, ditched the accountants, ditched the “wha’s like us” petit bourgeois respectability and actually set this f**king country alight…..A generation expects!

]]> By: FormerChampagneSocialist http://www.betternation.org/2012/08/is-it-time-to-get-behind-team-gbp-and-give-scottish-notes-the-high-jump/#comment-32359 FormerChampagneSocialist Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:12:44 +0000 http://www.betternation.org/?p=2627#comment-32359 Aidan

English banknotes aren’t theoretically legal tender in Scotland either. So the issue (if it is an issue) cuts both ways.

Your point about promissory notes is completely wrong. I can issue you a sterling promissory note and there’s no law preventing me from doing so. Companies, for example, regularly issue sterling notes (although not usually ‘bearer’ notes). Whether you accept my promissory note as a satisfactory means of payment is a matter for you.

As a weekly visitor to London I very rarely have an issue using Scottish banknotes.

FCS

]]> By: Alasdair Stirling http://www.betternation.org/2012/08/is-it-time-to-get-behind-team-gbp-and-give-scottish-notes-the-high-jump/#comment-32355 Alasdair Stirling Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:21:27 +0000 http://www.betternation.org/?p=2627#comment-32355 I have to say, I am in Argyll and I have seen nothing of the flag waving fervour here that I seen on the television happening in England. I know that Argyll is now very much an SNP heartland, but suspect that you may be being influenced by the reaction in London and assuming that the same thing is happening up North.

]]> By: Alasdair Stirling http://www.betternation.org/2012/08/is-it-time-to-get-behind-team-gbp-and-give-scottish-notes-the-high-jump/#comment-32354 Alasdair Stirling Sat, 11 Aug 2012 14:52:25 +0000 http://www.betternation.org/?p=2627#comment-32354 Jeff: I have seen Olympics come and go, and whatever feelings each individual event generates those feelings last no more then a couple of weeks once the show is over. The Olympics (and whatever GB goodwill they have generated) will be completely forgotten this time next month. I may be a cynic, but people move on really fast and their resolve does not last.

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